This week, we discuss why so many artists are driven to continually change … is this the natural state of all artists? Or do we vary in this? We consider the benefits of settling into a subject matter and a way of working (these include easier branding and consistent audience growth) but ultimately we accept that it's a matter of personality type and that neither of us is able to stay in one place with our work for too long.

There are of course, pluses and minuses to this … and we explore some of them in a wide-ranging conversation that covers studio size, ways of working, Ted Hughes, running, and even Eastenders! This one is sure to get you thinking...